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There is an [[PHDBA279S (Spring 2011) Official Version | "official version" of this page]], that the faculty can access. It is not important to keep the two syncronized. We can post the "final" results of the exploration that will take place on this page to that page once we are done.
 
==Class Details==
The class is as follows:
*Thursdays from '''1pm to 3pm''' - This time slot is '''[http12://osoc.berkeley.edu/OSOC/osoc?y=14&p_term=SP&p_deptname=Business+Administration+Doctoral+Program&p_classif=--+Choose+a+Course+Classification+--&p_presuf=--+Choose+a+Course+Prefix%2fSuffix+--&x=60 as posted in the online schedule] and may be open 30pm to debate2pm'''.
*In F555
*With Steve Tadelis
*By tradition/convention the presenter brings "classy" chocolate for all to share
==Priority for Scheduling==
The order of priority for scheduling ==Who is:Presenting==*Sixth Years (Justin)*Fifth Years*Fourth Years*Third Years*Second YearsA list of [[BPP Students | all BPP students is here]]. Note that there are 14 current BPP students in years 2 through 6, and 14 slots. However, Job Market candidates, other than Dylan, will be sharing a slot, or a slot will be used for the job market recap.
Please add yourself (first name only will do) in to any date that you would like to present, noting that the priority above applies. Within years it is first-come-first-served (yes there is a history function to check!). During the first class we will have a clearance. But if you feel sure that you have a date (i.e. because you are a sixth year, or fifth year and Justin has already chosen, or all fifth years have decided and you are a fourth year, and so on by induction) you can turn your name '''bold'''. A list of [[BPP Students | all BPP students is here]]. Note that there are 14 current BPP students in years 2 through 6, and 14 slots (yeah!).
==Schedule of Classes==
*Thurs 21st April - '''Lucy'''
*Thurs 28th April - '''Job Market Recap (or 5th/6th years)'''
 
==Proposed New Institutions==
 
The schedule above is what happened using a by-senority-then-first-come-first-served system. This schedule seems to be socially sub-optimal (i.e. it doesn't maximize social welfare). Orie sent an email noting this and proposing a new system:
 
I’d like to point out that we have some issues with the schedule.
For example, that the 2nd years are presenting very early in the semester after having
presented late in the fall, and almost everyone else is in pure rank order.
After some discussion here is what I propose for norms so that the online date
selection matches better what used to happen in the scheduling meeting.
In general, everyone should pick by seniority, but with the following conditions:
'''For the Spring:'''
-Job market candidates get spots only after everyone else has chosen.
-Those with specific plans for orals in the spring have first priority
-2nd years don’t get stuck early in the spring after presenting late in the fall.
'''For the Fall:'''
-3rd years (who have just completed 2nd year papers) present early
-2nd years each get half a slot, and present relatively late in the semester
-Job market candidates get priority, but are encouraged to present early in the
semester, especially before their OEW slots and other outside presentations.
These are still subject to gaming, but I hope we would all stick to the spirit of these.
 
 
Ed feels that the easiest way to '''operationalize Orie's proposal''' is to change the senority order to the following:
 
'''Fall Term'''
#Job Market Candidates
#Second Years as a group for a single slot
#By Senority (with the third years last)
 
'''Spring Term'''
#Those taking their orals
#2nd Years
#By senority (except for job market candidates)
#Job Market Candidates
'''An alternative''' that should also work, and which still affords more seniority to program order is:*Each term is broken into a first half and a second half.*There are two rounds. You may choose in only one round.*In the first round senority is by program order (6th year -> 2nd year), but you may choose only from the first half of the slots (or wait until the next round).*In the second round both halves are open and the senority is as in Ed's proposal above, but pre-chosen slots from the first round in the first half can not be bumped.==New Institutions==
Following a BPP student group meeting with Steve Tadelis, we have collectively (and with the faculty) agreed a new institution for the presentation order at the Student Seminar. This is detailed here:
*[[PHDBA279S Presentation Institutions]]
*[[BPP Student Institutions]]
'''The status quo''' is not the senority system that we have used to date on the wiki. Rather, it is whatever schedule Steve (or whomever is running the seminar) would impose on us.
==Discussion==
As always, please feel free to discuss this anything on the [[Talk:PHDBA279S_(Spring_2011) | Discussion Page]].
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